Mysterious Transdev NSW Routes


#1

These two Transdev NSW routes keep popping up in the main non-realtime GTFS compilation.

±------------------------------------------------±---------------±--------------------+
| name | transit_system | last_updated |
±------------------------------------------------±---------------±--------------------+
| 2 Glebe to Sydney Olympic Park via Hunters Hill | Transdev NSW | 2018-01-26 10:08:09 |
| 6 Woronora to Sydney Olympic Park | Transdev NSW | 2018-01-26 10:08:09 |
±------------------------------------------------±---------------±--------------------+

With agency_id=“22”

Are these lines in the buses real-time for Transdev NSW? If so, with what agency_id?

:roll_eyes:


#2

Here another one from the Punchbowl company.

±----------------------------------±-----------------±-----------------±----------------±-------±--------------------+
| 7 Cronulla to Sydney Olympic Park agency_id: 14 route_id: 96-7-sj2-1 update: 2018-01-26 10:08:09 |


#3

Hey @Webmaster,

Those routes are Sydney Olympic Park major event buses (https://transportnsw.info/travel-info/using-public-transport/getting-to-major-event-venues/getting-to-sydney-olympic-park).

They are only provided through the Complete GTFS bundle now. There used to be a specific Major Events feed, but that has since been decommissioned.

Hope that helps!


#4

I see, for example, in the main static bundle:
“14”,“Punchbowl Bus Company”,“http://transportnsw.info”,“Australia/Sydney”,“EN”,“131500”

But no mention of it in the overlapping table.

Should we assume agency names with real-time also included in the main bundle but with a different agency_id do not have real-time?


#5

The approach I use checks agency_id only.

Anything that’s listed in the overlapping table as having a “For Realtime GTFS agency_id” would have real-time and can be excluded from the Complete GTFS.

Agency ID 22 isn’t listed, so therefore, wouldn’t have realtime and should be included.

Does that make sense?


#6

Yes, it makes sense but I need an official answer.

Thanks for the help.


#7

The official answer is the same as stated above by @jxeeno. Those routes are for major events and now only provided in the complete GTFS bundle. Major event routes do not have real-time data available.

Thanks,
Alex