# Static route\_ids in Non-Realtime GTFS Bundle

**URL:** <https://opendataforum.transport.nsw.gov.au/t/static-route-ids-in-non-realtime-gtfs-bundle/1456>\
**Category:** Real-time Public Transport\
**Created:** [November 18, 2018, 8:06am UTC](https://opendataforum.transport.nsw.gov.au/t/static-route-ids-in-non-realtime-gtfs-bundle/1456 "2018-11-18T08:06:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![Webmaster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/opendataforum.transport.nsw.gov.au/webmaster/32/228_2.png) [@Webmaster](https://opendataforum.transport.nsw.gov.au/u/Webmaster)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2018, 8:06am UTC](https://opendataforum.transport.nsw.gov.au/t/static-route-ids-in-non-realtime-gtfs-bundle/1456/1 "2018-11-18T08:06:14Z")

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Hello,

Can you say if route\_ids in the non-realtime GTFS bundle are still changing?

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**Author:** ![alejandro.felman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bbe5ce/32.png) [@alejandro.felman](https://opendataforum.transport.nsw.gov.au/u/alejandro.felman)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 11:00pm UTC](https://opendataforum.transport.nsw.gov.au/t/static-route-ids-in-non-realtime-gtfs-bundle/1456/2 "2018-11-19T23:00:36Z")

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Hi @Webmaster, can you please clarify this further and provide an example. I don’t understand what you mean.

Thanks,  
Alex

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**Author:** ![Webmaster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/opendataforum.transport.nsw.gov.au/webmaster/32/228_2.png) [@Webmaster](https://opendataforum.transport.nsw.gov.au/u/Webmaster)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2018, 8:33am UTC](https://opendataforum.transport.nsw.gov.au/t/static-route-ids-in-non-realtime-gtfs-bundle/1456/3 "2018-11-21T08:33:56Z")

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I mean between successive updates of the download file, will all the route\_ids be the same?

For example, will the route\_id for a specific route always be the same in the next update?

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**Author:** ![alejandro.felman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bbe5ce/32.png) [@alejandro.felman](https://opendataforum.transport.nsw.gov.au/u/alejandro.felman)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2018, 4:21am UTC](https://opendataforum.transport.nsw.gov.au/t/static-route-ids-in-non-realtime-gtfs-bundle/1456/4 "2018-11-22T04:21:46Z")

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Hi @Webmaster, yes, route\_ids will remain the same unless there are major changes to the network or major restructure of routes, which is rare.

Thanks,  
Alex