# GTFS-RT - Far West incorrect TripID

**URL:** <https://opendataforum.transport.nsw.gov.au/t/gtfs-rt-far-west-incorrect-tripid/5874>\
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**Created:** [June 20, 2025, 12:22am UTC](https://opendataforum.transport.nsw.gov.au/t/gtfs-rt-far-west-incorrect-tripid/5874 "2025-06-20T00:22:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![james00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b4bc9f/32.png) [@james00](https://opendataforum.transport.nsw.gov.au/u/james00)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 12:22am UTC](https://opendataforum.transport.nsw.gov.au/t/gtfs-rt-far-west-incorrect-tripid/5874/1 "2025-06-20T00:22:58Z")

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Hi,

Just want to report that the Far West FW GTFS-RT bus feeds for CDC Broken Hill are reporting incorrect TripID’s to the real-time feed. Those vehicles/services are reporting TripId’s to the feed for example as Trip ID: 165335190001:33416881 where as the Trip ID for the equivalent trip is stored in the static FW GTFS trips.txt as for example 2463631 - this results in a mismatch and for some third-party apps results in these services not showing real-time information.

This is also not a one off - all services for CDC Broken Hill are consistently reporting these malformed tripids for all routes and all days.

Also, a less critical issue more of an observation, TrainLink services operated by RoadCoach are reporting malformed vehicle identifiers in that real-time feed, for example, usual vehicles in the feed will have a licence\_plate like 1234MO for example, these vehicles have an id for example 355353351471374. This is only an observation, it doesn’t appear to affect the tracking of these vehicles that i am aware of.

Thank you

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**Author:** ![Marcie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a5b964/32.png) [@Marcie](https://opendataforum.transport.nsw.gov.au/u/Marcie)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2025, 1:33am UTC](https://opendataforum.transport.nsw.gov.au/t/gtfs-rt-far-west-incorrect-tripid/5874/2 "2025-06-23T01:33:44Z")

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> [@james00](#):
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> Just want to report that the Far West FW GTFS-RT bus feeds for CDC Broken Hill are reporting incorrect TripID’s to the real-time feed. Those vehicles/services are reporting TripId’s to the feed for example as Trip ID: 165335190001:33416881 where as the Trip ID for the equivalent trip is stored in the static FW GTFS trips.txt as for example 2463631 - this results in a mismatch and for some third-party apps results in these services not showing real-time information.
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> This is also not a one off - all services for CDC Broken Hill are consistently reporting these malformed tripids for all routes and all days.
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> Also, a less critical issue more of an observation, TrainLink services operated by RoadCoach are reporting malformed vehicle identifiers in that real-time feed, for example, usual vehicles in the

Hi @james00 ,

thank you for reporting this. We do occasionally see those incorrect TripID’s for our TCB feeds. I will let the team know about the Broken Hill TripIDs.

Will have a look into the Coach IDs of NSW Trains.

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**Author:** ![james00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b4bc9f/32.png) [@james00](https://opendataforum.transport.nsw.gov.au/u/james00)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2025, 7:41am UTC](https://opendataforum.transport.nsw.gov.au/t/gtfs-rt-far-west-incorrect-tripid/5874/3 "2025-06-23T07:41:33Z")

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Hi Marcie,

Thanks for the reply. Could you also please note that Albury services (Dysons Buslines) – specifically routes 901, 902, and 903 – do not appear in the real-time GTFS feed on most days. The last time I saw these in the feed was 8th June, and even before then, their presence was sporadic.

Let me know if you need further details.

Thanks,  
James

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**Author:** ![james00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b4bc9f/32.png) [@james00](https://opendataforum.transport.nsw.gov.au/u/james00)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 6:18am UTC](https://opendataforum.transport.nsw.gov.au/t/gtfs-rt-far-west-incorrect-tripid/5874/4 "2025-06-25T06:18:38Z")

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Hi,

Just confirming the TripIDs now appear correctly in the feed for CDC Broken Hill—thanks for sorting that out.

However, I’ve noticed that for routes 590, 591, 592, and 593:

- The TripIDs in the real-time feed look normal,
- But those TripIDs (and the routes themselves) aren’t present in the static GTFS files—neither in trips.txt nor routes.txt.

Could you please look into this also?

Thanks,  
James

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**Author:** ![Suraj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Suraj](https://opendataforum.transport.nsw.gov.au/u/Suraj)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 2:29am UTC](https://opendataforum.transport.nsw.gov.au/t/gtfs-rt-far-west-incorrect-tripid/5874/5 "2025-06-30T02:29:30Z")

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Thanks, James, for your feedback. We are investigating the issue. We will update you once it has been fixed.

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**Author:** ![james00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b4bc9f/32.png) [@james00](https://opendataforum.transport.nsw.gov.au/u/james00)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 10:27am UTC](https://opendataforum.transport.nsw.gov.au/t/gtfs-rt-far-west-incorrect-tripid/5874/6 "2025-08-20T10:27:57Z")

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Hi,

Has there been any progress in regards to the missing trip id’s for CDC Broken Hill - routes 590-593 and the real-time completely missing for Dysons Albury services - routes 901-903?

Could I please also report that Ogden’s Coaches are now also reporting invalid TripId’s for all of their services - for example, the 555 route 2 weeks ago was reporting

**17:35** to Narromine  
Trip ID: 2484846

Today, the trip id reported as the following, which does not match the static GTFS data.  
Trip ID: 100186:35008437

This is the case for all scheduled route and school services for this operator. This first started happening on the 14th August.

Thank you
